ADQL-0.9; another review & comment, please

[Wil O'Mullane]

Units were included in this version pretty much under duress and only as optional. If you think units should delay the standardization of what is otherwise a working and test language then perhaps we should remove units from the doc. 

We now have 3 groups (AstroGrid,NOV,JVO) using 0.7.4 which is not an approved standard. Should we than approve that ?

wil
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:41:14AM -0000, Tony Linde wrote:
> Hi Masatoshi,
> 
> Thanks for giving us more time with the document.
> 
> I'd like to suggest that we put the review on hold until later next year.
> All the Jan demos planned so far are committed only to work with 0.7.4 and I
> don't know that any of the projects involved in these have made any serious
> attempts to implement 0.9 (or 0.8.1).
> 
> I think there are some very significant changes in the newer versions of
> ADQL that merit substantive testing (especially Units) before we can propose
> that the ADQL WD should be promoted. Before we tell people to start using a
> new version of ADQL, we should have a couple of working prototypes in the
> projects with published data resources.
> 
> And before we move towards a v1.0 of ADQL I think we ought to be able to
> demonstrate two or three projects calling *cross-project* data querying
> services.
> 
> Cheers,
> Tony. 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-voql at eso.org [mailto:owner-voql at eso.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Masatoshi OHISHI
> > Sent: 06 December 2004 09:02
> > To: voql at ivoa.net
> > Subject: ADQL-0.9; another review & comment, please
> > 
> > Dear VOQL people,
> > 
> > The other day I announced to you that the Working Draft, 
> > ADQL-0.9, was approved because I received no comments during 
> > the review period.
> > 
> > However, I found that it would be much better to extend the 
> > review period before we promote the Working Draft to the 
> > Proposed Rec status. And I hace decided to reopen the 
> > discussion among the VOQL group.
> > 
> > For your convenience I would like to mention that there is 
> > only one modofication on ADQL-0.9 from ADQL-0.8.1
> > -- we added a description to allow special characters, "[ ]", 
> > to enclose names containing keywords or starting with numerals.
> > 
> > Please download the file from
> > 
> > http://www.ivoa.net/internal/IVOA/IvoaVOQL/WD_ADQL-0.9.pdf
> > 
> > and,
> > 
> > (1) read the document and submit your comments on this WD 
> > before the Christmas holidays if possible;
> > (2) report if you have implemented ADQL-0.9, or report if you 
> > plan to implement this version; and
> > (3) if implemented, report how it works or which problems you found.
> > 
> > If you think that it is better to extend the review period, 
> > please do not hesitate to propose so. Any other suggestions 
> > are, of course, welcome !!
> > 
> > I note that our group may become dormant between the 
> > Christmas vacations and New Year's holidays in Japan (Dec 28 
> > -- Jan 3).
> > Therefore I strongly suggest you to comment before Christman 
> > vacations.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> >      Masatoshi
> > 
> >