Report IAUSymp 241: Stellar Populations
mcs at iaa.es
Wed Dec 20 02:08:22 PST 2006
There as been a meeting about Stellar populations (IAUSymp 241) where
some issues related
to the VO (theory and applications) has been discussed.
The meeting was focus in science, and there was only few people was
involve in VO activities, so it was a "preliminary contact" between
VO and "real world"
I send here a very draft about my impressions about this meeting that
can be discussed in the list (there was other people in the metting,
like Santi Cassisi, Herve Wozniak, Philippe Prugniel, Licai Deng
(VOChina) and some people from VOIndia) that may be have a different
1) In general there was a strong interest of model developers to
provide their results
in the VO
2) They do not have any "guide" to do that. I had the feeling that,
they do not know how VO works, in particular the issues related with
about the role of national VO host and how to coordinate their
activities. My impression
is that they understand the VO as "another paper", in the sense that,
systematically, when I
asked if they had asked to their "national VO contact" for support,
they didn't contact!
Maybe more publicity about that is needed. A very simple guide that
can be posted in astro-ph...
3) There was some confusion about issues related about the use of the
codes in the VO.
Some of them was thinking about "open source" codes (that is not
necessarily the case)
instead to make public their results.
4) In general, most of code developers was STRONGLY worried about how
to keep the credits
of their work. I think that it can be done in the PROVENANCE fileds
of the tables, but, in any case, most of the applications does not
hand provenance fields in a particular way (and sometimes, these
fields are erased by the application when the final VOTable is
I think that it will be the main issue to solve if we want convince
"standard" astronomers to
include their result in the VO (independently if the implementation
is done by themselves following a guide or by third parties).
5) In the particular case of synthesis models results (and some case
for atmosphere libraries and stellar tracks/isochrones) it would be
interesting to make a "mail-list" where non-VO people
would define what these object are and how it can be described in a
unique way (i.e. produce a data model from the model developers but
explained and described in a science context without VO words ;)
6) (Also a personal opinion) There is no way to access VOTables
referenced inside VOTables
(or at least, I know no application able do that). It will be useful
since, synthesis models, or galaxy fitting models make use of
"collections" of other theoretical/observational data
(atmospheres libraries and isochrones in the first case or
collections of synthesis models results in the second).
Well, It is all, I any one have more ideas/suggestions/comments about
this will be great :)
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